ACABookfair 2023 + Intl Week of Solidarity with Anarchist Prisoners
This week, we feature two segments
First up, former co-host on the show Scott talks about the upcoming Another Carolina Anarchist Bookfair happening the weekend of August 11 – 13th, some of the content and notes on access, as well as mentioning some new projects their involved with. You can learn more about the bookfair by visiting ACABookfair.noblogs.org , the project’s instagram, facebook or mastodon.
Then, Fern from the International Anarchist Defense Fund (AFund.Info) talks about the upcoming International Week of Solidarity with Anarchist Prisoners from August 23-30th, taking place wherever you make it happen. You can find the call-out, materials, supported prisoners, some anti-repression groups involved and info on past actions and events at https://Solidarity.International .
Announcement
Black Anarchist Hybachi Lamar Support
Hybachi Lamar, an incarcerated Black, Kemetic anarchist being held at the Cook County Jail talks about the conditions in the jail in an audio message that is shared alongside links to his writings and info on how to help South Chicago Anarchist Black Cross support him. All of this can be found at https://southchicagoabc.org/helpcompa/
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Featured Track:
- Everything In Its Right Place (by Radiohead) by The String Quartet from Strung Out On Kid A – The String Quartet Tribute To Radiohead
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ACABookfair 2023 Transcription
TFSR: Could introduce yourself for the listening audience? I’m Bursts, I use he/him pronouns, I live in Asheville, and I work on The Final Straw Radio. Who are you?
Shuli: My name is Scott or Shuli. I use they/she pronouns. I’ve formally lived in Asheville, but I’m now in New York. Yeah. Hi!
TFSR: Shuli, as Scott, has done a bunch of episodes on the show, so you’ll probably remember her voice.
Shuli: Yes.
TFSR: So besides being a cherished friend, and sometimes co host of The Final Straw, you’re also an organizer of the ACAB Book Fair. Could you give us the basic details about this year’s event, time, place, blah, blah, blah, all that sort of stuff? and what is the ACAB book fair?
Shuli: Yeah. So this is our return after COVID interrupted. Before, we did three years in a row: 2017, 2018, 2019. This is our first time back since the pandemic started. It’s really exciting to be back. I think this might even be our biggest one yet. Obviously, I don’t know in advance, but it’s happening August 11 through 13th in Asheville, North Carolina. There are three days of things going on including workshops, talks, shows, and just hanging out. It’ll take place in various locations and Asheville.
One of the really exciting things is that Firestorm, which is a worker owned collective that runs an anarchist bookshop is just bought their new space. This will be one of the initial opening events in their new space on Haywood Road. That’s going to be one of the major locations, then we’re also going to be down the street on Hayward at Different Wrld, and then also some of our events will be at The Odd, which is across from Firestorm’s new location.
TFSR: Would you give a rundown of the overall schedule? You don’t have to go into every presentation if you don’t want to, but just day by day?
Shuli: So Friday, August 11 is the first day. We’ll have a welcoming table operating all day at Firestorm, so you can come and get the schedule and sort of orient yourself. The afternoon has a few things going on that will be happening at Firestorm. Oh! I neglected to mention that we’re also going to be using the West Asheville Library for some of our events too, which is just a little bit down the road from the new Firestorm location.
So there’s a few events starting at 2pm on Friday going until the keynote at 7pm, which is with Diane Stevens, who worked as part of the Jane collective. So that’s a really exciting talk. Before that we have Shannon Clay, who’s talking about Anti Racist Action history of Anti Fascist organizing. We also have a report back earlier in the day from the Stop Cop City organizing and Direct Action Abortion Services in Latin America. There’s a bunch of different things on Friday and then Friday night there’s an after party put on by Pansy Collective. I should have also mentioned earlier, we are partnering with Pansy Collective again to help plan some of the social engagements with the Bookfair. Pansy Collective is a queer and trans organizing collective based out of Asheville that raises money and puts on shows by queer and trans artists.
Saturday is when the vendors start at Different Wrld. Saturday and Sunday from 10 to five is when tabling will happen. You can go there to see your favorite distros and anarchist publishing collectives and companies and whatever. That is the main space of where the book fair is happening. We have a full day of workshops and talks again. I’m not going to list all of them, but there’s some exciting things. We have a grief circle, we have a talk about DIY hormones, I’m excited that there’s a group for aging anarchists anonymous.
One of the thing that’s really going to be exciting about this bookfair is that we have intergenerational resource sharing. We have some elders, we have young people involved, and I think that’s a really important thing to do, is to meet and share our perspectives and experiences from the different timelines of anarchy. I’ll be doing a talk on the Breakup Theory of Anarchism on Saturday, Margaret killjoys is going to be doing a history of anarchism. At 4:30pm we have Modibo Khadile talking about Direct Democracy, he is a longtime organizer, Black anarchist writer, who has previously come to our book fair and he’s a really engaging speaker. I’m really excited for that talk. Our keynote on Saturday is called Ungovernable: Fighting Fascism with JoNina Abron-Ervin and Lorenzo Ervin, in conversation with William C. Anderson. So there’s a kind of intergenerational exchange of Black anarchism. So that’s gonna be really exciting. Then again, we have an after party that Pansy has organized.
All the after parties are at Different Wrld. There is punk and dance music. Some of our local heroes like Secret Shame, playing on Saturday night and Nomadic War Machine, which is one of Margaret Killjoy’s musical projects.
Sunday, there’s a maker’s market with music and food at The Odd, just across the street from Firestorm. It’s a local venue. And a pretty full day of workshops, again. We have a workshop on herbs for grief, a report back from the Health Autonomy Convergence and Deep May, there’s a packaging party for our local Tranzmission Prison Project that sends books to queer and trans people who are incarcerated. There’s a talk on punk and breaking capitalism’s spell on our imagination, and a radical death care talk. I’m just listing some of the events and then another after party on Sunday if you if you can go that hard three nights in a row.
This is like a pretty packed weekend. I am excited, you have to make choices because there’s things that are happening at the same time, but you can’t really go wrong with all the things that are are happening.
TFSR: Also, at The Odd when the packing party is going on, they’ll be serving their normal Sunday brunch, which is a paid affair, but also Brass Your Heart, one of the local marching bands is going to be playing, they’re really fun. A new punk venture: On The Block. That’s the one I was trying to think of before, they are going to be playing on Sunday night at Static Age for the close out show, which is pretty cool.
If you’re feeling a little unsure about going all day, both days, there’s a four hour break between stuff on Sunday. So you have time to go sit in the park and stare at a tree, talk with the tree, maybe just listen. I’m also excited that at 3pm on Saturday, there’s going to be the ‘Depth of Engaging: An Indigenous queer perspective.’
Shuli: The ‘Depth of Engaging’ is a workshop on Saturday from three to four on building true ally-ship and working towards right relationship from a local indigiqueer perspective. I think that’s really important to flag just because Asheville has this liberal reputation, but it’s actually a pretty neoliberal hellscape of war against unhoused people, poor people, Black people, and a long history of the removal of indigenous people. So there’s still indigenous history and ongoing relationship to the land that gets erased a lot in the white Asheville perspective. That is what you hear about in its reputation.
Well, one of the things I was thinking when you were talking is that, there’s so much going on and it can be overwhelming, and it can be hard to make decisions, but one of the other things that I think is important about the Bookfair is that it’s a place to meet and find each other. So if you’re not feeling like sitting in a workshop or at a talk, there are spaces to find other people that you want to engage with and find out what they’re doing, and wherever they’re coming from.
People come from all over the southeast to this book fair, but also from further away, so there’s the opportunity to really touch base with friends and comrades or new people and just hang out. I want to empower everyone who’s coming to do what they need to do and enjoy the space. The general atmosphere and spaces created by a bookfair, there’s no right way to engage with it. Except being kind to people.
TFSR: Don’t be a dick.
Shuli: No flipping tables for no reason.
TFSR: I like the caveat.
One difference from past years, with the organizing that I’ve noticed, is that there’s not housing arrangements being coordinated by by Pansy or by ACAB. It seems like it was a lot of work every year and also in this ongoing COVID disaster that’s rolling out, a really complicated thing to talk through. You don’t have to have an answer, but do you have any suggestions for folks that might be rolling into town that don’t know folks?
Shuli: Housing is just a problem everywhere in Asheville. One of the things that’s ongoing in Asheville right now is that they are cracking down on all forms of non normative inhabitants of the city, against the unhoused population. All the people who are able to afford rents are still in their own forms of crisis too. But it’s just really hard. When we were organizing the housing, that was also just a lot of moving pieces and getting people in line to respond. It’s a really wonderful thing to be able to do, but it involves a lot of connecting people and hoping that everyone will show up for what they’re saying they will do.
There used to be youth hostels in Asheville. I actually don’t know if those still are operating. There’s probably places that you can legally camp nearby. We had to narrow our focus to organizing the event, rather than trying to get everyone housing. Also, I think our event has been growing. It’s harder to negotiate sharing space now based on different risk tolerances with the pandemic too. So it just becomes a larger discussion.
TFSR: Yeah. This area is surrounded by State and National Parks, so there’s a ton of camping opportunities. It’s nearing the end of summer, at least, so you’re not going to have all the competition that you would have had throughout the summer with other tourist travelers coming through. I’m not sure about the hostels. I always figured they were a little bit expensive. Theres Bon Paul and Sharkie’s or whatever.
Shuli: Right. That’s on the same road that all the events are, but I don’t know what the prices are. There’s one downtown, which is harder to get to the events from. But yeah, I can’t speak to it, I haven’t stayed in those.
TFSR: I flubbed before saying, “when we were in COVID”. So ACAB has a policy of masking ins in presentation spaces, at least right? Are you familiar with what the policy is enough to say a few words about expectations?
Shuli: I’m speaking also as someone who is immunocompromised and has been trying to reduce my exposure and risk. So when we were making our policy, we we wanted to make it as accessible as possible to people who feel like they can share indoor space with people. But to do that we want people to mask in the indoor spaces, just because that really is one of the most effective ways of reducing risk. We will have masks available and also tests. I would encourage people to take a rapid test before showing up and sharing space just to try to be as safe as possible. There will be outdoor spaces where people will not be masking. Although, if you’re in close proximity, it’s good to mask and also just respect people’s choices in their masking and their needs, for reducing their own exposures and risks. One of the main things that I think about a lot is that people aren’t masking because there’s so much social pressure to not mask and I really like to help create a social norm of masking so that the people who are still taking COVID Seriously do not feel like they’re totally on another planet.
TFSR: We don’t want to be a super spreader event for anything but anarchy and love.
Shuli: If only anarchy could spread like a pandemic. [laughs]
TFSR: Was there anything that we didn’t talk about already with this? I mean, it’s a lot and we could probably go on for a long time. But any other points you wanted to touch on?
Shuli: This is just an opportunity to talk a little bit about what’s going on, but you can go to our website, which will be linked to get access to the schedule. We have an Instagram where we’re posting descriptions of the events and other kinds of information. The website is ACABookfair.noblogs.org and the Instagram is also @ACABookfair.
I just think it’s gonna be a really great weekend. I think people are excited to come back to this space and re-inhabit the bookfair space in Asheville because it has been a really wonderful event in the past. I know that it’s something that a lot of people look forward to year to year. So it’s just really exciting to come back and I think we have a really wonderful weekend of talks and workshops. So many great people coming to share their work in the tabling section too. Come if you can, and say hi, while you’re there!
TFSR: And I’m going to try to record at least some of the presentations in the evenings to be able to present in future podcasts for folks that couldn’t make it. I don’t think we have a plan for live streaming any of the content. That’s just because it was too much for a small collective like us to be able to pull that together, which is okay. But maybe in the future we can do that.
Shuli: Though the pandemic is ongoing, we made the decision to hold an in person event, but Firestorm does stream a lot of events. A lot of the people who will be presenting there have a whole archive of online events that are accessible. It’ll be good to have some of the stuff that’s happening in the bookfair, available later through The Final Straw or elsewhere.
TFSR: Shuli, thank you so much for having the conversation.
So the Breakup Theory? Can you say a little more about that? Do you want to give us any sneak previews of upcoming projects that you’re working on or anything like that?
Shuli: Yeah, so I wrote this book, Practical Anarchism, and one of the ways that I’m accessing anarchism, is this idea that anarchism teaches us how to end things and to break up. To break up relationships, but also we want to break up with the State and capitalism. So the workshop I’m going to do at the Bookfair is trying to think about how we can practice anarchism in our daily lives and in relationship with each other and think about how even those small things that get that get overlooked in terms of revolutionary organizing are ways that we can refuse to repeat the world of hierarchy and oppression as it is. From this, I’m starting a new project with my friend Caroline, a podcast called The Breakups Theory where I’m going to invite people on to talk about relationships as a place of enacting our prefigurative politics. So keep an eye out for that. I’ll share information as it happens.
But I’m really excited because I think it’s important for us, as anarchists, to talk about how we relate to each other. It’s clearly one of the places where we run into the most problems, because there’s always conflict and we need to be better at engaging in conflict in a way that reduces harm and is generative for healing.
TFSR: Yeah, for sure. When that starts getting teased publicly, I’ll be sure to put stuff in the show notes and re-toot it or whatever from our accounts.
Cool. Well, I hope you have a good day and I look forward to seeing you at the Bookfair.
Shuli: Yeah. I’m can’t wait to be there. Thank you so much for sharing all this information.
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International Week of Solidarity with Anarchist Prisoners Transcription
Fern: Hi, I’m Fern, He/him currently living in Germany and I’m part of a local anarchists grassroots initiative as well. I’m also connected with solidarity structures with anarchist prisoners.
TFSR: Would you please tell us a little bit about the International Anarchists Defense Fund? How it started, how it works, and who supports it? Is it local is it diffused? That sort of stuff?
Fern: Well, AFund is a decentralized initiative was maintained promoted for some comrades in different parts of Europe, but not only. Basically, the purpose of AFund is to support (with money) comrades who have need, those who suffered repression by the State, or who has problems in their life derided from their ideas, their political commitment with anarchist ideas. It is a tool for the moment, to give financial support for those who need it no matter in what part of the world they are in.
This initiative has run now since 2018. it was born because there was the need in this moment to have our own structure to support anarchist prisoners. So many times anarchist prisoners are not supported by other initiatives, even if they are an initiative to support political prisoners, but it often depends on the actions the comrades did. It is possible they are not supported because human rights organizations or collectives with other political views. So, we saw this need.
As I said, there are no central structures. It is quite loose, decentralize logistic collective that takes care of AFund. This group of people is in charge of taking care of the request of who receive and verifies if they are true or not. Those who make the decision about these requests are the permanent donors. These are the people who donate 20 euros, or at least 20 euros or equivalent a year. These people make the decision to support or not support the case. The usual practice is we send 10% of the total amount of AFund. So there is always some money to give to those who are in the need.
An important issue to mention is AFund does not replace the local solidarity structures, it is just another tool for the movement. So this is very important to have in mind. Over the years, AFund supported proximately 40 collectives or individuals from different places of the world, mostly Europeans, mainly east European, but also there was some support and connections with people in Chile, Mexico, Indonesia, Sudan, or even Afghanistan. So during this time, there were good connections with different parts of the world, connecting the different struggles and support between different parts of the world.
This is the basic idea of AFund, if someone has to need of this tool, they can write an email, or we can check in the website, AFund.info. AFund supports every comrade, no matter which actions they took. Just for comrades who are suffering the repression of the State. It could be many different things, even if they lost their job because if their ideas or family needs help because they are in prison, or they got injured related to their political activism, all these cases are supported by AFund.
TFSR: hat seems really important. It was always a little opaque to me (I guess, because I didn’t ask) but where the AFund came out of. I started seeing Cindy Milstein, an anarchist based in so called ‘North America,’ talking about it and having stacks of flyers for it at events. I was like, “Where did this come from? What’s the deal with this?” It seems like a really positive way to redistribute funding and solidarity into places where it may not be present because of a low phase in anarchist organizing in that place, or because of just the way the international economy and colonialism and its impacts work out. So not only a good way to become aware of the way that organizing or resistance happens in other places, and hear the voices of folks that are involved in that, but also to redistribute funds from say, like the United States to Indonesia, or Afghanistan, as you mentioned. That’s really cool.
Fern: Absolutely, it was a nice to see for example, when some were making a request, let’s say in Europe, and and some comrades said they know about this because we sent their request and they get in touch with the comrades and provided direct support. The opportunity to make this connection is also very important for us, not only the financial issues, but this connection between the different comrades to spread the word about the fights they are doing. It is very important.
TFSR: Yeah, and just to point back to what you said, to reiterate, a lot of human rights organizations are couched in very liberal terms of acceptability, so Amnesty International, I will name as one organization that refuses to do support work for people that have engaged in an activity that maybe is criminalized. You were very careful to call these actions and not crimes. However, Amnesty would say, “We won’t support this person because they engaged in crimes of one sort.” It’s very much the same linguistic approach towards human rights that maybe you would hear from the United Nations. It’s important that we are able to have parallel infrastructures or infrastructures that actually serve our needs, and not rely on the logic of international government affiliated institutions, even if at times they can do really important things to support people in movement or people suffering repression, like Amnesty does.
Fern: Exactly. Maybe this is also the link with the Week of Solidarity. We see many times there is not solidarity from the liberals. Both today and in the past, there is still a Week of Solidarity with political prisoners who do not include some anarchists prisoners. So it’s the same, there is this need to create a new new infrastructure or our own possibilities to remember and support our comrades.
TFSR: Yeah, as you brought it up like this seems like a good time to talk about the International Week of Solidarity with anarchists. Prisoners. Can you talk a bit about that what dates this falls on, how it was developed and who it supports?
Fern: The Week of Solidarity with anarchist prisoners will take place from the 23rd of August to the 31st. It’s promoted by different ABC collectives and solidarity groups around the world. As I said, there was the need to have our own moment during the year to remember the comrades and the fight. So since 2013, this initiative started to promote this every year in the same period of time. This has this symbolic component, because August 23 is the date in 1927 when Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti were executed as part of the attack against the war in the US against the workers and anarchist movement. So every year, starting the same day the ideas to get a bit of this spirit of protest and take actions around the world to remember our comrades and the struggle.
So basically, this is the idea of the Week of Solidarity, to remember the comrades who are imprisoned, and not forget them in the cage. So we are promoting the idea of people take actions no matter which kind of actions. It could be like some presentations, graffitis, direct actions, radio shows, talking about or comrades in prison, writing letters is very important.
TFSR: And just because this is the United States that I’m in and where most of our listeners are, just to remind folks, Sacco and Vanzetti were two Italian immigrant anarchists, who had been accused by basically the predecessor of the FBI. It even had J. Edgar Hoover as a member. But a federal agency decided to accuse them of participating in a robbery at a shoe factory of the payroll there in Braintree, Massachusetts, where I believe the payroll guard was killed. They were on trial, recognized generally as a very unjust trial, including by authorities currently in the United States, and convicted. Not only for being anarchists, but also for being immigrants from Southern Europe. Which at the time, alongside of the Eastern Europeans, are one of the big racialized and fear-monger immigrant populations in the US. Ostensibly, they were tied to the Galleanist movement.
During the trial, it was couched a lot in the language of innocence. In order to save these people’s lives. It brought 1000s and 1000s of people into the streets, millions of people in the street if you want to talk about worldwide. It was one of the earlier trials that I’m aware of that caused this international recognition from movements around the world, whether anarchists, liberal, socialist, or communists against the political repression of the US government. It really was a watershed moment in US history that a lot of us aren’t educated about here. I’ll put some links in the show notes about it. Super important period. So thank you for bringing in that date and the recognition of it.
You mentioned that the week of solidarity has relationship to various collectives that contribute information about prisoners and struggle. Can you talk a little more about some of those prisoners? There’s a lot of people in there. How do you choose?
Fern: Basically, it’s a matter of trust. When people work together and develop some trust with each other, you can also talk about what happened with this different persons you are supporting, and you can know better circumstances are experienced. So if there are any problem with the prisoners, if it’s possible to discuss and see why the collective or people are supporting this or other prisoners. Usually is not a problem. There are few cases where it will be more problematic. In those cases, it’s necessary to see case individually and see the circumstances.
On the Solidarity International website there is a list of anarchist prisoners also with a description of who they are and what they did. There are some things we will not support. If people talk with cops, saying or signing something against comrades… this is out of discussion. It is not possible.
TFSR: No snitches.
Fern: There are other behaviors that could be very problematic like if they have fascist ideas or racist ideas. But then there can be a gray line where you’re maybe not so sure, but there the idea is to be explicit about what the situation of these people and this list of prisoners. Every person who can access the information and decide by themselves if they want or not support those prisoners.
TFSR: Yep, that makes sense. Can you talk about the activities that you heard about from last year’s Week of Solidarity? Do people host events and does your website talk about them? Sort of like that June 11 Day of Solidarity with Marius Mason and longterm anarchist prisoners happens? Or is it mostly actions? Are there any things that standout for you that you’d like to mention from last year as inspiration?
Fern: There were some quite different activities and actions. Some people were dropping banners, others making graffiti, others taking direct actions. It is very different depending on where the actions were. The last year for example, there was a lot of actions not in Europe, but outside in Latin America and in Asia. But it’s quite different, there’s not like a kind of standard initiative. We understand the movement is very wide and very diverse. So we expect that solidarity will be expressed in a variety of ways. We believe in the creativity of our movement. The only important thing is to take the initiative to do something and remember our comrades in this in this period of time.
TFSR: What sort of feedback do you get from prisoners who are supported by the week? Have you heard about the reactions when news comes to someone that they’re being supported by this Week of Solidarity and then they hear about something happening at the embassy for the government that’s holding them hostage, but the embassy halfway across the world, do you hear word from that prisoner?
Fern: It’s hard to say because this is not a centralized coordination of something. So many times you just know that something happened somewhere. But maybe it is known more by the local structure collectives. We try to contact prisoners directly and write something about the anarchist solidarity week but it’s always depends on the places where they are. The ideas to have in this list of prisoners, prisoners all over the world. So there is even people in Indonesia, where it depends who is speaking, it’s not possible to communicate because of language. So there is not direct communication, because this is always related with the local structures.
TFSR: if somebody is supporting a prisoner that isn’t on the list already, but the prisoner wants to be on the list or the comrade wants to be on the list of supported? How do they get in touch with you and how do they propose this?
Fern: They just need to go to the website Solidarity.International and there is an email which is tilallarefree@riseup.net and just mention the situation. This already happened with some prisoners, for different reasons, they prefer not to be on the list. This is not not a problem at all.
TFSR: Are there any fallen prisoners or people released in the last year that have shown up on this past list that you want to shout out, for instance Giannis Mikhailidas in Greece is, as I understand, now out on parole or about to be out on parole after hunger and thirst strikes. Are there any prisoners that you want to mention that you’re aware of whose circumstances have changed?
Fern: One of the latest comrades who are now free is Gabriel Pombo Da Silva, he spent 32 years of incarceration, in different periods of time. Mostly in Spain. We are very happy because there was the attempt of the Spanish government to keep him in jail for more time. Solidarity with him was very useful and we know he felt very not alone in this period of time, as well as the family and, and he’s very grateful for the solidarity from the comrades.
TFSR: hat’s great to hear about comrades coming home and joining their communities again.
So much of anti repression work is reactive and defensive keeps us from forward momentum to build new worlds that we want to see and weakens our movements. And you know, this makes sense. This is how the State fights back, to keep us distracted by taking our comrades and our loved ones away from us. Would you talk about about keeping prisoners in our movements, and how prisoners shape the movements that they come from?
Fern: I think it’s fundamental for any movement to remember those who are not longer here as well who are in prison, who lost their freedom. I think it’s not a question of we are agree or disagree with the specific actions they took, but to recognize that we are all connected by the same idea. The same dream of this new society of free and equals. I think many times we hear of this movement without memories, destined to repeat over and over again, the same mistakes. I think it’s the same for those movements who are not taking care of those who are left behind. If we don’t take care of our people, we will not be able to give light to the world for which we fight.
I think it’s important also to mention to realize the repression against anarchism affects us, all of us, no matter what we are doing. If we are doing something peaceful like a cultural magazine, or wherever, or if people are dedicated to direct actions, clandestine actions, and so on, we are always a potential target at some point. So it’s important to not forget the imprisoned comrades, because it is also a way (I don’t know if this is the best word) to empower each other to know no matter what happens to us, or comrades will be there if we need it. It’s also important to tell the State and the capital that we are not alone. I think it’s important to not forget our comrades in prison.
TFSR: Yeah, for sure. Just to look back at the website, the https://Solidarity.International — I think it’s great that the past calls are there in multiple languages, as well as posters. Our ABC group here printed off some of the new, this year’s posters, which are very cute like rabbits liberating each other from a cage. So those materials are there for people wherever they are to take and work with as they want to. I guess if any artists are out there, including past materials, if any artists are out there they can contribute their art to the project through that same email. Right?
Fern: Absolutely. Everything related with the Week of Solidarity it’s nice when they send to the website. It will be updated continuously with different actions. before, during, and after the solidarity week. It’s important to mention in the call for this year, as well as the last year’s, it’s not only about the prisoners, but also about what is going on in our world. How authoritarianism is developing in society, because also this is related to why out comrades are in prison and why we are fighting against this society.
TFSR: Yeah, that makes sense. Fern, was there anything that I didn’t ask about that you wanted to mention in relation to this topic? Because that was the last of my questions.
Fern: I just encourage the people to take actions, find friends, do something. You can also look for a local ABC group or solidarity groups, but don’t be afraid and don’t lose the opportunity to be active and remember the comrades. It’s also not too late to start if people are not active now. Keep in mind it’s all the same period of time. People be also active in this time in the same idea. So it’s another way to be connected around the world with the other comrades.
TFSR: Yeah, I think that’s a really good point. Thanks a lot for taking the time to talk and schedule this this chat with me. I really appreciate it. Thanks to you